you the two ads we just saw are engaging on the right topic for the american t voters. a business round-table last week had a meeting. our ceo said it privately and then publicly yesterday, we released a big drop, third sharpest drop in expect i guess so as of ceos on sales and hiring than we've seen in ten years. the economy is not good and for the candidates for the presidency to be talking about competing growth agendas, that ought to be good ground for romney. >> why is that message not getting out? what has he done that's not been effective? >> i don't know. maybe taxes, tapes, conventions. >> 47%, yeah? >> no, i think what he is, this is a long time in this campaign. i believe with governor kasich. before governor of 1990, the weekend before in the front page of the paper said i would lose 54-40. these polls are not what voters are thinking often and i say let these candidates engage on the economic issues. governor romney can't win on those issues, he won't win. but i think he can. >> well, you know, we've also seen and talked about this earlier in the hour about